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We at Brave New Films are becoming increasingly concerned that the real John McCain story is not being told. Many in the media are in love with the "maverick" despite his changing positions, and obvious political pandering. We HAVE to do something about this! So we did some extensive research on his flip-flopping, and can now proudly present:John McCain vs. John McCain. On our new website, TheRealMcCain.com, you'll also find a scathing new blog penned by top McCain watcher and fellow hellraiser, Cliff Schecter.

Please forward this video on! We need your ideas, inspiration, and smart ways to spread this new website and video to your networks. It's how we'll change the media's love affair with McCain, and everyone else's too. All the best, Robert Greenwald and Brave New Films P.S. The Los Angeles Times has a front-page story on all this today: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-internet29jan29,0,4114166.story

Topics · Robert Greenwald · John McCain · flip flop · Gay Marriage · Hardball · Chris Matthews · Civil Unions · Brave New Films

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nefaa commented 1 day ago:

does anybody think that cnn is the dangerous media in this election because not only they give mccain free passes on his double talk ,they help him get his message throw while unlike fox news,they give you a rong felling that they are balanced;for example most obama advocates in their pannels are not die-hard obama supporters but ex hillary supporters or hith alldue respect radio talk show hosts while mccain gets the best the gop voices avaible now.

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Americanwhiner commented 5 days ago:

I wondered what happened to the truth-tellers in media today. Can't stomach Wolf Blitzer and the CNN pandering to McCain, can't get international news, war news, ANY news. TV is a wasteland...although Olberman and Maddow sneak some in between the candy. Hooray for Brave New Films. You're doing a great job of exposing Mr. Double-Talk. McCain v. McCain: I love it!

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Richard S. commented 6 days ago:

If this man is elected, it's like voting for the thief that robbed you. Wake up, look around, America has been systematically plundered by the current gang, and McBane will do it again. The most corrupt administrations in US history they will say.

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Matt Judkin commented 19 days ago:

John is the one will do the right thing and will be the least in the pockets of the special interest… that I 100% McCain!! He is a straight talker! War hero! He is a fiscal hawk!! He hates earmarks! He fights the pharmaceutical companies; he stood by Iraq when it was unpopular. He is kind of cranky and no push over. I like that!! Obama is a talker boy. But, no real substance, just blah blah blah. The few things he has said equal a BIGGER government and more deficit spending!!

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Robert Kunferman commented 2 months ago:

Sorry Bel Gazou: But the largest base in the world has been being built already in Irag, and the Dems approved of this with a very large budget that was clearly spelled out that intention. It is actually being built for the sole purpose of spending our money on Washington thieves, since they need to replace the money they stole by having Japanese and German occupations that ammounted to nothing of benefit to taxpayers.

As for Blackwater and Dyncorp, that was approved of by both parties as well, and there are campaign contributions for both parties to keep it that way.

The short American attention span is the same for anybody dumb enough to vote for anybody in either party. Otherwise, if the government skum did not have all of this protection for them, and all of our money, then we and many other people would hang them on the whitehouse lawn. That may be far beyond your attention span to comprehend.
We pay to have those thieves protected. Go figure.

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Bel Gazou commented 3 months ago:

Just recently, many months after having spoken to bigot preacher, John Hagee's congregation and after having accepted the endorsements of both John Hagee and another preacher/bigot, Rev. Rod Parsley, after having given an interview with the press stating that he accepted both endorsements of Hagee and Parsley, Mc Cain now does a total 180 and rejects both endorsements, endorsements which he had first sought. An attempt, no doubt, to both belly-up to the bigot constituency and assuage the mainstream voters.

Now, McBush's original "in Iraq for 100 years" and "no time table for withdrawl" have morphed into "out of Iraq by 2013". Hero McCain says that he "supports the troops" but he has just recently vetoed the new G.I. Bill which would have offered educational grants to Vets who attended 4-year, state run colleges and provided an increase in combat pay. Yet McBush voted to continue funding the use of mercenary armies such as Blackwater, Triple Canopy and DynaCorp, whose soldiers-for-hire garner an annual 6 figure salary for which the taxpayers foot the bill for billions of dollars (many of these mercenary soldiers are also foreigners). Added to the billions of dollars spent on these companies, all of these companies are based off-shore and pay no taxes. These mercenary armies are huge contributors to the Republican party, as well.

McBush is able to constantly contradict himself because he knows that the American public has an attention span of < a nanosecond and won't remember what he has said or done by the following day. He keeps driving home his long ago heroism despite the fact that the reason that he was shot down by the Viet Cong in the first place, was due to his own habitually reckless, loose-cannon behavior.

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rube ruiz commented 3 months ago:

Bottom line_
9/11 happened under GOP watch...
Katrina was totally mishandled on the FED level-
Iraq was based on duplicity and subversion- GOP
Afghanistan has not been dealt with appropriately
Hence Binladen still lurks. And now the wheels are coming off the economy. What does the GOP give the American public- more fear! Fear Iraq, fear same sex marriage, fear the liberals etc.
Im a conservative and Im sick of it! Its time to fear the GOP and fear McCain!

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Lee commented 3 months ago:

I just tried to log on to the McCain videos and the message is "this video is no longer available." Are your videos being censored or hijacked?

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Martha Mapp commented 3 months ago:

I was about to send the link to The Real McCain to some friends whom I suspect will vote for John McCain....but then that faux interview with George Stephanopolis came on. That would immediately discredit the legitimate information in the Real McCain. So I am not sending the link. Don't you realize that if you want to achieve legitimacy, you MUST be consistent in your content.

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mark mywords commented 3 months ago:

the dems... the repbs...

let's cut to the chase...

to get into power... to run a campaign... to win this (or buy) office costs a lot and will NEVER be fair...

what we can hope for:
that the leader chosen understands the grave importance of his job... that he be amoung the brightest... that he TRY to beholding to noone...
that he be PRO LABOR (which most of us are) rather than PRO BOSSES (which is what wealthy people are)....

THIS IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THE DIWTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES... THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID AGAINST THE REST OF US...

heavy taxes on the wealthy is a great leveling for the rest of us...

public services are used by MOST of us...

wealthy people dont need parks and libraries... they have homes and yards and books and schools WITH supplies...

VOTE OBAMA... WE DONT NEED TO FIGHT ANOTHER KING'S WAR OVER WHICH RICH PERSON RAPES US BEST...

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jon commented 3 months ago:

I am not a McCain fan but I find your videos do not accurately portray McCain. Some of the snippets are taken out of context or cut off his complete answer to a question. You are just providing ammunition for the right, to demonstrate what they will claim is manipulation, enabling them to discredit the entire video, which is mostly of great merit.

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barry commented 3 months ago:

here are the links - copy and delete the spaces:

www.pbs.org / moyers/journal/03072008/watch.html

www.huffingtonpost.com / max-blumenthal/rapture-ready-the-unauth_b_57826.html

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barry commented 3 months ago:

Everything one needs to know about McCain/Lieberman/Neo-Con AGENDA: www.pbs.org

please take the time to inform yourselves . . . this is our path to victory in 2008. Spread the link and bring awareness to this sick, twisted, horrific anti-American fascist ideology and agenda.

We do not need these people controlling the most powerful position in the free world -- it would be to our certain peril as a free nation.

I am actually begging you to engage and shout out from the mountain tops. please. Knowledge and Information are our greatest weapon. I can't believe even the most "reasonable" conservatives would support this madness.

Please -- Do Something!!!

MB covers the same Event: www.huffingtonpost.com

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Robert Kunferman commented 4 months ago:

Your wrong John Wann.

This campaign is nothing but physical therapy for McCained. He has been waving at the crowds so much that he is now almost able to lift his arms above his shoulders.

The Dems sell-out for overseas concerns as much or more than the repubes do. We only need to see the Clinton family of neo-New York fascists to realize that. Funny how two pukes from Arkansas can find a home in New York's highest priced neihborhood, and say nothing for six months, yet expect to get elected by people who work for a living. The Demopublichen party is trying to shoot itself in the foot again, because we are unable to spend our way out of this mess they helped create. Quit spending. Quit working. Quit beleiveing anything from the media, so we can get this accountability thing taken care of. The people in Washington need to spend their money on each other, and be tried for their crimes. Not immunity for these thieves.

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Matt Judkin commented 4 months ago:

John is the one will do the right thing and will be the least in the pockets of the special interest… that I 100% McCain!! He is a straight talker! War hero! He is a fiscal hawk!! He hates earmarks! He fights the pharmaceutical companies; he stood by Iraq when it was unpopular. He is kind of cranky and no push over. I like that!! Obama is a talker boy. But, no real substance, just blah blah blah. The few things he has said equal a BIGGER government and more deficit spending!!

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John Wann commented 4 months ago:

FLIP FLOP. Senator McCain is not all there, making him the perfect Republican candidate. As Presidents Reagen and Bushs administrations were, and are controlled by international special interests, disregarding the will of Americas citizens. Senator McCain is not likely to make it through the presidential campain however, granting the Republican party the element of suprise come November.

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Robert Kunferman commented 4 months ago:

I have some Deans at my University that are just as greedy and as dumb as you. The Democrats voted overwhelmingly to go to war. Your spineless misrepresentation of the facts is typical of silly government weasals that vote only their pocketbooks.

If Nader had been elected, you may have to work for a living, and we would not have to pay for this occupation, and injuries.

We also would not have our streets full of Mexicans not working very hard, yet receiving benefits as the new excuse to our school systems failing.

Try voting your conscience for once, and..... wait you have none. Nevermind.

I don't even know what the RNC is, so I will vote for whoever the media does not give free name recognition BS to 24/7.

It should be obvious to even a dullard government skum that nothing of substance has been said by any candidate, thusfar(typical for American politics). Except mcCain has committed to giving every Veteran a card to use wherever they like for medical care, and Unkle Swine will pay the bills. If I were voting my pocketbook, and was even a bit of a repubelichen, then he would do more for me and other Veterans than the clown act of government dullards the Dems employ to do the opposite, and steal my money.

I live in a state where the Democrats wanted to not pay the welfare people unless they worked for their money. They went so far as to take money from the Federal government, earmarked for welfare/non-working people. Then, instead of giving it to the welfare people, they had one, or more, of the law firms that gave contributions to the Democrat governor head up the expensive Federal case to try to defend their corrupt actions. Needless to say, they obviously lost a case that everyone knew they could not win, and the law firm(s) did very well, as will the political contributions the next time he runs for office.

The democratic party is so corrupt and criminal that it appears totally foolish to throw stones at Nader, except that Nader may agree with me that this is a foul party that spends too much on idiots and weasels-the skum that rises to the top, then never gets skimmed off.

The truth hurts, and voting your pocketbook over all else is common among shallow tripe. If I were doing the same, I would be voting for McCained, so you missed again by two for two. Your likely related to third generation government slag, so you can can the phony bit about how dedicated you are to the party of drivel-dems. You will have a state or federal job no matter how useless you are. Go Figure.

McCained did not start this war. The Dems did by not protesting it, so they could keep their lousy budgets to buy votes with as well. I thought I made that clear enough for even a blind sow to find it.

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Dean commented 4 months ago:

"Robert" finally says he doesn't want to spend the trillions of taxpayer dollars to fund Mccain's 100 year war, but then says he's voting for Nadar.

How much does the RNC pay you to post this viral junk? Progressives learned the hard way in 2000 that if you vote for someone who has ZERO chance of winning, you and the country end of paying for it with your lives and treasure.

They're not going to fall for it this time, "Robert". You better tell your contact at the RNC sending you the checks each month it's not working.

If you're against Mccain's 100 year war in Iraq and the trillions of dollars in taxpayer money to fund it, the only way to get that policy implemented is to vote for the Democrat nonimee --- both have made ending the war in Iraq a centerpiece of their campaigns -- and against the candidate who is fine with an open-ended war in Iraq.

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Robert Kunferman commented 4 months ago:

If it is brevity you want then here it is, and no more really needs to be said before the elections.

The policies necessary for a proper reform of this government's policy are linked to increaseing wages to pay for these policies. This takes the policy that workers have to catch-up with government growth and waste.

To measure a good quality of life two things keep it a simple matter:

1.)How much free time/vacation time do you have for your family.
2.) How much disposable money in a reasonably liquid form do you have to be able to enjoy those free-time hours and benefit your family.

By those two measures, we Americans are falling behind and giving our lives to the government sector, with nearly nothing in return.

Without campaign finance reform, and control over foriegn investors, monopolizing our airwaves, our politicians, and tax codes, we cannot do the long term planning that will pay for proper social benefits and savings. The media and the politicians are not being paid to help Americans. They are being paid to give them false hope and lie to them. We get stiffed with the bill.

Let me know when that changes.

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Robert Kunferman commented 4 months ago:

Now let's go back to that lazy useless DNR as an example of how not to run a state. After only showing up for work for about 50 days per year, althought the DNR clown I refer to has his calender full of penciled in and never kept commitments, this guy claims that all of his studies he did got ruined, because the guy that deleivers phone books in his area put a wet phone book on 2 years of his work, and it got ruined.

He went to his doctor to try to force his doctor to write him a restriction from having to do stream studies this summer, then went fishing the next day writing the mileage down for it on his DNR log, and will likely claim comp-time for working the weekend. We are not even into summer yet, he wants a restriction from having to even show up 50 days per year, and he went fishing in the tributaries/streams the very next day after he requested a very unprofessional far off in the future physical restriction. He actually hurt himself very slightly(stubbed his big toe) at home while he was walking around having his driveway cemented, thus the reason he never made a first report of injury until months later. There is no supervision in the DNR, but they sure give out large salaries to supervisors and directors who are just offspring of other lazy government swine.

The real joke here is that I am not fabricating any of this to you in the least bit, even though it is hard to believe that a government can get so full of shit and so full of my tax dollars that it is run like a third world country.

You people are so full of shit and greedy that you cannot even see straight. Go figure. That's what happens when you feed and house them. Them being the government skum my state is full of. Many of whom are third and fourth generation lazy swine.

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Robert Kunferman commented 4 months ago:

NO!!!!!! And I am not a right winger. And I am not willing to let the Democrats off the hook for voting to go to this war.

I was on two major campuses in the midwest in 2002/03 trying to watch the phony spineless Dems put up a fight against the war that actually was just a fake hippy rally. I took up middle ground between the war mongers and the spineless drivel spewers. Of all of the people there, including Bolten from Washington, and some protection on the roof, I was the only one claiming that we would not find any weapons of mass destruction. The only one willing to say that no educated person would even believe the BS spewed by our government(both parties, PBS, and The New York Times). Your universities and High Schools are failing to educate people. Again, I was the only one laughing and saying that there were obviously no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. It was a very fringe and unpopular positon of aginus at the time, and all of the protesters believed the silly drivel from PBS, The New York times, and any other foolish people that reprinted their idiotic drivel.

Your freaken clowns believed all of the media retoric, and were afraid of your own shadows, so don't blame me, and quit listening to the foreign owned press.

I also don't support democrats stealing working people's money until they are broke, lose their civil rights, and have to show up at some government office to brown-nose rude, lousey, lazy swine just to beg for some of their money back so they can live their lives as they see fit.

If I don't pay for all of you wasteful clowns, then I will be put in jail. Hey, I don't even leave my house for fear that when the economy is losing clown police officers and the worthless DA's/judges will try to steal some money from me, just because some clown like you asked my opinion, then when it was not what helped them expand their pocketbook, they called the police on me as a potential terrorist. Or right wing looneybin, or whatever name you called me.

Actually, I am now trying to leave the country, plan to vote for Nader, and I have seen enough of this greedy, unfair, unconstitutional monkey show from both parties to make me ready to go forth with relocating before they charge me with a crime and try to keep me here again

You have done nothing to help this country, so crawl back under your government sponsored desk, and don't address me unless you are willing to use your real name. Otherwise you are just another coward talking trash.

Your question is a shallow question at best, and this is by no means his 100 year war. that is how I can tell you are only concerned about your pocketbook. That part is simple. Although, maybe you are just stupid like a lot of the other formally educated idiots that I meet in my state every month.

Read other people's comments and mine, and you will soon learn I am not a right winger. I just don't need stupid people voting their pocketbooks harming me and my constitutional rights. I could run this country on half the money, and less than half the government, but once this lazy fungus has taken hold, there is no getting rid of it.

We are now bailing out our lousey government from what should be catastrophic bank failures, and I am for letting them fail so we can clean this overpriced mess up.

I will suggest two books for you: "Creature from Jeckyl Island"=Griffin, which shows how the Federal Reserve was formed, and for whose benefit. It is political, but it is an accurate history.

The other is: "The Politics of Heroin" = McCoy, also an accurate history.

Our history of wasteful and repressive, corrupt government goes much further back in history than Shrub Monkey and his presidency. All I ever really needed to hear from Bush was " You are either withus or aginus", and the deal was sealed for me against him. I don't need even less direct and confused lies from the most corrupt political party in history(the dems) to equally shun them from my circle of trusted people.

If you want change then Nader is your man. If you just want more money to harass private citizens with, then keep voting democrat.

Now, it isn't my job to educate you on history, so go back to your lousey democrat run university and ask for your money back. that or chose a science and study it beyond your democratic favoritism for politics versus science, or actually at my university, at the expense of science.

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Dean commented 4 months ago:

"Robert" - putting aside your looney right wing drivel, are you willing to pay the trillons of dollars in taxpayer money needed to fund Mccain's 100 year war in Iraq: Yes or No?

I'm guessing you'll respond with more incoherent ramblings and debates with youself, but who knows, maybe you'll surprise us all with a straight forward one word answer to the question you have been too much of a coward to answer.

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Robert Kunferman commented 4 months ago:

Don't cut out the facts I bring to this website and maybe you can gain a little credibility.

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Robert Kunferman commented 4 months ago:

By the way. The stuff that got cut out of here showed specifically just how foolish wasteful agencies like the DNR are to our state government.

People literally only doing 50 days of any type of work per year. People padding their mileage extensively, while they sit at home or go fishing. People fishing on the weekends and claiming "comptime" and receiveing even extra vacation days for working on the weekends. People in the DNR not charged for raffle tickets by "Trout Unlimited", and receiving sporting equipment, more or less as bribes, so that TU can have their land developed with taxpayer money.
The joke about this is that everyday one fisherman hits one of our streams over ten dollars of damage is done to that stream, but the DNR can only see the money. Next time leave the facts in, so others can go to their buildings themselves and see the lack of green these clowns create through their personal waste, and that which they create by selfish, lazy minded stupidity.

You have a corrupt government, but it gets votes for the Dems if they leave it that way. Go figure.

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Robert Kunferman commented 4 months ago:

We Americans have about 60% of us claiming that we attend religious services regularily.

Obviously, religion needs to get as far away from politics as possible, since we are near retarded as a Western Nation already.

We have far more violence, far more people incarcerated, and serious inefficiencies like that, so that it is nearly beyond correcting. Mutual of Obama has absolutely no intellect available to him to correct that. He only has disengenuous, greedy dullards, that only care about making more do nothing jobs for their offspring. Tat makes him a very dangerous president, especially when our population is being dumbed down by them so much that they cannot even sit on a jury and tell that the government is createing most of these problems.

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Robert Kunferman commented 4 months ago:

To Rob and Homunculus:

I thought that the Dems always wanted diversity and endless drivel. You may want to understand that since the Federal government and the state governments have become the largest contractors in the United states, and each respective state, we have statistically deteriorated as a nation in all objective measurement.

When corporations were the largest contractors federally, and likely in every state, we had better minds, education, and all other objective measures.

Mutual of Obama will be elected, but the same people that created him and control him are failures at running our government.

This government of ours, and my state government is great at finding news outlets(by the numbers beholden to government) are very good at lieing for the government to create false hope, and they also seem to imply that government is just a bunch of innocent do gooders in the process.

I will vote for Nader because he is honest, not controlled by corporate and government money, and he actually talks to the citizens as if we are citizens. He represents the only change possible from this failing society. Mutual of Obama is just a tool in clown clothing, and will not make a good or even average president.

That will not keep our British run media from acting like he is doing good, though. He, like Shrub, cannot even read the speeches written for him with any genuine understanding or heart for what is good for this country.

He is not alone. Many people I know in my university are so disengenuous that they don't believe in real education, nor can they tell the truth in money matters that benefit the university system. This tells me that they also believe that money and power is all that matters.

Mutual of obama has no ideology beyond shallow fifth grade retoric that will land him the job he wants, so he can back peddle for eight years defending the dirty laundry they already have on him, but will wait to release.

The democrats only see money, and nothing else. Not because they are near bankrupcy or losing their medical insurance, but because doing it the old fashioned way works, and measureable work is what scares the hell out of them.

This will be a revenge and shift the wealth to the wrong people government, that to me will be the nail in our coffin.

McCained may be a better candidate, and he at least has an ideology, but it is difficult for him to claim that people should be independently effective, while we run a Soviet Union sized government. I realize this as well.

We need to link government growth to GDP growth, so that the largest contractors are not the US government, and state wasters.

As for being green, well that has just been made a joke in my state. we waste so much that there has been irrepairable damage. And the nepatism is so rampant among government agencies that there is no way to manage it properly. And, the government sees workers as such trash that they create "resentment" and indignation beyond that which naturally occurs in a fair, equitable society.

If you cool off and talk logic, instead of your shallow lies that pay your bills and then some, you would not even be in the running for election.

Talk about streamlining our government, and holding thieves within our government accountable, and you are talking change and progress.

It looks to me as though we will be digressing to phoney discussions about religion again.

Some quick stats for you lazy cheerleaders out there giving up some other people's ass instead of yours for the cause.
1.) Europe has about 6% of their population or less that attend religious services regularily, which is actually considered less than once per week, so maybe once per month.
1.)a. We have on average 300 times(30,000% more) more people incarcerated per capita than European countries do.
1.)b. We have about the same amount more of violent crime against each other.
1.)c. It is obviously not our lack of phoney, fairytale religions that renders us a cruel and unusually corrupt country that obviously cares nothing for its productive citizens.
1.) d. It is obvious that we are running a government with no accountability for corruption, and that without religion, measureable advances for citizens are gained, but the media is leading another round of digression for the Democratic party to exploit citizens with.
1.) e. Let's make sure we undrstand the the Republicans are more independent minded, so they only place those idiots have found to gel is through religion.

Clinton sealed the airwaves, and knew exactly who he was doing it for, and now only the British have a voice in our media. They are running the show, and Mutual of Obama knows who butters his bread.

I will end this because it is not my responsibility to do what your universities fail to do, but you can figure this stuff out yourselves, and you are not capable, willing, or genuine enough to do the heavy lifting required to overturn the government coup that is failing this nation.

Creating do nothing jobs for clowns in the democratic party, so they can interfere with people's lives that just want to be left alone, will clearly further damage our society, and very clearly will create more irrepairable "resentment" and indignation.

Most of you just want a nice car, house, and whatever else you can steal from productive private sector people. Therein lies the corrosive problems that spending beyond GDP growth creates for our country. Whether BamBam wins or loses, there are no plans to fix our failing country, especially by the laziest and most useless benefactors of not fixing it.

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Homunculus commented 4 months ago:

I think we should all cool off then come together and talk frankly over a nice, hot cup of freshly brewed Sanka brand coffee.

Don't you think that would be nice?

Oh, and McCain will lose very, very big in November.

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Rob commented 4 months ago:

This kind of talk just pushes everyone apart even more. Everyone needs to approach this election as a non-objective observer, I think thats really important. I use to be somewhat of a fan of McCain, now I see that hes a dangerous man. The talk im seeing on the internet makes me worried, because It means that the people talking all this garbage are the people who choose leaders. Lets all grow up and enjoy this exciting political season! -Rob Swift (inventer of the "Rock For Barack Tour")

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Robert Kunferman commented 5 months ago:

Bring a few of your spineless DNR friends, so I spend less time in jail for fighting three panzies at the same time instead of just one.

I will go to Iraq and do some of the fun stuff there by the way, but not for the same money pukes like you make for sitting at home hiding from your inaccurate and self created job discription. I don't guard gates and i don't guard towers. Those are jobs for puke MP's and punk police officers serving over there.

Get your facts straight about this war. Don't worry because nobody is going to get rid of your do nothing job in Wisconsin. The state ranks 40th economically because of lazy trash like you and the nepatism that goes with it. This same economic trouble took place in the late seventies here, and no government waste got cut= ranks 38th in medical care and 40th economically among the United States.

As for the dedicated working researchers and professors I have seen at your main UW university and the very few that exist in your other universities, I apologize.

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Robert Kunferman commented 5 months ago:

I see you are too much of a coward to use your real name there Dean: Nothing new here. If you found my writings incomprehensible then I assume that you are a Democrat worried about keeping your lazy do nothing job. Let me guess, you have a masters degree, yet are dumb as dirt. Is that correct, punk?

Now you seem to be using your desire to vote your pocketbook to claim that mcCained is the cause of us being in Iraq, when it was the Democrats who voted unanamously for us to be there(except Feingold). Funny how money makes lazy swine try to sell-out the facts so they can hide in their do nothing government weasal jobs.

I will simplify the facts for you. If we pull-out today there will be sectarian blood-bath, and if we pull out tommorro=sectarian blood-bath violence as well, and if we pull out one hundred years from now=blood-bath sectarian style.

Conclusion for pukes too greedy and too lazy to see straight, is that the Dems and the Repubs should have never gotten us into this in the first place. They, the New York Times, PBS, and the Fabian society all participated in making this happen.

Second conclusion: You will be occupying them for 100 years, and you have started constructing the largest military base in the world for our troops to live in and around to occupy Iraq just to prove it. Yet phoney Dems still have to erect paper tigers to shred with lazy fourth grade level impunity. Read history and use your full real name from now on, you spineless weasal.

As for the DNR guy in wisconsin, he is real, he is in your Spooner office, he is just as lazy as the rest of the guys not in the office , but at home smoking dope or in the bar in downtown Spooner all day. Or out hunting and writing the mileage off for doing so. His initials are JC and he has been caught, but not disciplined for using his mileage for personal shopping expideitions to Cabellas.

Now, before you start calling me a bastard, you really should use your full name, and I can come to yoru next taxpayer paid for DNR hotel waste of money, and you and I can take it out back if you like. You could then legally be injured enough to not have to go to work.

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Dean commented 5 months ago:

Robert, if you want to try to defend the indefensible, you need to have the ability to write a coherent sentence.

Are you willing to go to Iraq to fight Mccain's 100 year war you lazy bastard? Are you willing to accept higher taxes to pay for Mccain's wars? Where do you think the money is coming from to pay for them you f'n dipshit.

P.S. your made up "friend" is you. Now move out of parent's basement and get a life, loser.

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Robert Kunferman commented 5 months ago:

In defense of the repubelichens here, the rest of you must have drank the kool-aid, and are buying into some confusion that the Demopublichens are somehow less responsible for us being in Iraq/Afghanistan and wasteing my money for their lazy benefit.

These Dems are always worried about voting their pocketbooks and using silly factless presumptions(always unfounded or irrellevent) to hide the fact that they are doing their best as voters to avoid any real productive work, while doing their wasteful government lacky jobs.

Get a real job, then come back and tell us how much you want a bunch of lazy, useless government pukes telling you how to wipe your ass from left to right instead of front to back.

I have a friend that goes to work in the Wisconsin DNR at least one day every ywo weeks. He bills the State for driving back and forth from his job 65 miles from his office for the other four days anyway. He now hurt his foot at home, and is trying to get work comp for it. He plans to see his doctor this week to have him state for him that he no longer can do stream or creek studies because of his big toe operation he had to endure, because he claims to have stubbed his toe at work. The day after that he going fishing at the Great Lakes, plans to bill them for the mileage600 miles roundtrip at 55 cents or more per mile, and fish the Great Lake's tributaries to the first obstruction(dam). this usually involves walking on slippery rocks.

This DNR clown is the standard, not the exception of what these lazy pukes do all day. He is obviously a staunch Democratic party supporter(albeit lazy, stupid, and disengenuous), for obvious reasons.

For Kevin and other BS-Artists out there in the lazy party, pull my other leg, it plays jingle bells.

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KevinRose commented 5 months ago:

It is very clear that Matt has drank the Kool-aid and is buying the hype over truth. Sen McCain is replete with many changes on his positions. For example not shown, he really jumped sides with Bush himself. During the last election cycle he was bashed by the bush team only to be see arm in arm with the moron. No integrity. Not one bit. Maybe he believes in torture because when he was captured and tortured, he gave up his fellow troops information and positions. I guess he figures since he cracked they all will crack. Whet he does not know is that he was weak and still is.

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Matt Judkin commented 6 months ago:

John McCain scares the Democrats and Republicans!
The politicians in Washington both Democrat and Republican are scared to death of John because they know he will not be a big spender and that all their earmarks and special interest money will be gone!!
McCain 2008!

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Cyndy commented 6 months ago:

Jack forgot to mention a recent flip-flop on torture. During the primaries, McCain spoke out eloquently against torture of prisoners in televised proceedings and said our Government should never descend to that level. Then a few weeks ago he voted against an amendment in the Senate that would ban torture and require the government to abide by the Geneva Convention standards. What a disappointment. After all, McCain was tortured himself in Vietnam, so he of all people should know how important humane treatment of prisoners is.
John McCain seems to change positions depending on which way the wind is blowing and which constituency he is trying to attract. I don't see the integrity that Matt is talking about, just the opposite (although he is right about John McCain scaring people). It's numnuts like Matt that brought us Bush. Sometimes I wonder if the American voters are smart enough for democracy.

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Matt Judkin commented 6 months ago:

John McCain is a great man!! Both progressives and Conservatives are in agreement he has integrity and honor. So to read the bashing is gross!!
The war may have been wrong blah blah blah.... yes we ALL want it to end. But it is DONE, right or wrong we are there, and McCain is right we cannot cut and run.
I love it the ultra Left and the ultra right hate McCain. Now for certain I know he is the man for the job.
John McCain scares the Democrats and Republicans!
The politicians in Washington both Democrat and Republican are scared to death of John because they know he will not be a big spender and that all their earmarks and special interest money will be gone!!

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Jack commented 6 months ago:

Progressives, Conservatives, and Independents agree on one thing: Mccain is a serial flip flopper with ZERO integrity.

He was againt the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy b/c he knew they would create huge decifits, but now is for them even through they have created HUGE deficits.

He was for AMENESTY for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, but now calls for building a HUGE FENCE and CRACKING DOWN hard on them.

He was against right wingers like Jerry Faldwell, calling them "agents of intolerence", but is now sucking up to them as their bitch lap dog.

He said the war in Iraq would be "easy", and then when it wasn't, claimed to have been someone who said it would be hard, while railing against those who said it would be easy (like him!!).

He claims to be against corporate lobbyists, but takes corporate jets with them across the country, and has them running his campaign, not to mention being involved in once of the biggest lobbying scandals in the history of this Country!

Oh yea, and he cheated on his 1st wife with someone 17 years younger to get his hands on her family money.

Mccain is a fraud and a disgrace!!!

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Matt Judkin commented 6 months ago:

John McCain is a hero!! He is not going to tell you what YOU want to hear. Obama will tell you what you want to hear and stroke your head... in the end we cannot leave Iraq... it would be a HUGE mistake. LOL... Reading all the conspiracy theories on this website by all you liberals i.e. - neocon's, Halliburton, new world order, Bush oil, blah, blah, blah... lol No real US citizen takes you wacky fringe groups serious... NO ONE!!! lol No wonder the democrat party struggles, its got wacky lefties in it.. The independents will continue to stay away and Obama will lose.

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Jean Standish commented 6 months ago:

Here is another McCain tidbit that further undermines "the straight talk express." This is an excerpt from an "Opinion" column in the Los Angeles Times, 2/19/08. McCain voted against the Feinstein amendment prohibiting torture. This is really a sellout. Remember when George Bush sold himself to a credulous public as a "compassionate conservative"? If McCain has to advertise his veracity, then beware!

"Sen. McCain (R-Ariz.) should have voted last week for legislation sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) that would remove any doubt that CIA interrogators are forbidden to engage in waterboarding and other tactics banned by the Army Field Manual. Instead, McCain squandered some of his moral authority by supporting the Bush administration's position that the CIA should have more leeway than military interrogators. The legislation passed the Senate anyway, as well as the House, but support from McCain, the putative Republican nominee, would have made it harder for President Bush to veto."

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Matt Judkin commented 6 months ago:

John McCain is a hero!! He is not going to tell you what YOU want to hear. Obama will tell you what you want to hear and stroke your head... in the end we cannot leave Iraq... it would be a HUGE mistake. LOL... Reading all the conspiracy theories on this website by all you liberals i.e. - neocon's, Halliburton, new world order, Bush oil, blah, blah, blah... lol No real US citizen takes you wacky fringe groups serious... NO ONE!!! lol No wonder the democrat party struggles, its got wacky lefties in it.. The independents will continue to stay away and Obama will lose.

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Brian Parra commented about 1 year ago:

Oh man, not five days ago I wrote a whole opinion peice about exactly this topic. The Era of Youtube is not going to be kind to politicalns like McCain. If you're interested in reading it, check it here:
http://www.brianparra.com/?p=93

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